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opinions for me plz
« on: July 23, 2010, 10:22:36 AM »
Ok while its not the most popular title for a thread, basically i am wundering opinions on 5 different bots. I have 5 different versions up atm: SB "stealth bot" \ nf "neglected fury" \ Ruthless-ops \ Ruthless-chat and knight.

now i know sb's are just retarded but i like minor lugins it has and ease of use and all that stuff people will say R chat is better which i agree but cmds are easier FOR ME on sb.

NF cant load d2's can it. I thought i only saw wc3 and sc. So its out if it cant load d2's.

Ruthless ops is great, simple config, loads everything i use...but not chat "in ruthless ops"

Ruthless chat is great multi profile, great config, but TO ME it lacks the ease of use for the cmds.

And then there is Knight. From what i have seen it stands its own for an ops bot, it loads wc3 d2 "all i need" and has decent chat use! "maybe i just need to learn the access for that bot a lil better \ with all the letters"

Anyways between those five bots im wanting to know opinions to load 8 connections...keep them up... and use the least ram. or atleast the over all best on the average of all three of these things.

would appreciate the comments, opinions, and feed back.
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 10:42:03 AM »
I have used all five of those bots at one period in time. I consider stealthbot a security hazard. just google stealthbot math commands.
Then there is NF. NF is an excellent ops bot with minor chat capabilities. I personally use this for 6 connections and when my internet is up it is up. It uses the least ram out of all of these.
l2uthless ops isnt particuarly good in floods/loads and is slightly more ram intensive than NF. however it is simpler to use.
l2uthless chat is excellent for basic chat loading and trivia. I load 1-2 connections on this.
knight seems to be over complicated but does its job pretty well. never used it much.
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 10:48:35 AM »
OK I can help you a bit here.

The best bot that allows u to load 8 profiles, stay connected, and uses the least cpu usage, if neglected fury hands down.  Due to it rotating bots as if it is one, it mostly fits ur criteria.  Now i havent used it in a while, as the best usage of nf is as a clan chieftain, but i think there was a way to do d2, because there is a guy in my clan with a d2 bot that may be nf, but i am not sure.

Stealthbot does have the most uses, that you have right.  With the amount of modding you can do to a stealthbot it does make it one of the easiest bots to use, especially since they made 2.7.1.  It is not made for handling floods, and they got rid of custom cmds i think, and it has a lot of cpu usage as the multi-bot thing is still just a bunch of single bots.  But for usage it is quite good, but its just not made to load 8 bots, or handle flooding.

l2uthless Ops is a bot all its own.  It doesn't use too too much usage, nf just beats it in that area by a much smaller margin.  It loads 8 bots with ease, and can use d2, and its commands arent too difficult to understand.  The v2.13c can chat quite well, just dont expect the list of people in channel to be updated as fast as other bots.  Ops is made to be ops, not really for chatting through. 

l2uthless chat really is chatting only.  It does amazing for a chat bot, but thats all it is, a chat bot.  I don't like how it changes passwords to be encoded, so i dont use it much except for like private servers and IRC.  But for chatting its your best bet.

Knight I have never used, but I know its another sort of ops bot.

I know Forsaken Ops was doing a good job fitting your description, but again I havent touched it in a while.  It was working great for me back in the day, except it needs an almost perfect connection to the bnls.

Another bot worth considering is Alpha and Omega or A&O.  Its open source so people have made many different versions of this bot, for the most part it works well, it is kind of like stealthbot but withut all the scripts but usually does better on uptime.  Again havent used in a while.  It multi-profiles much better tho.  Emerge also is similar to this.

Forget Miragebot.  it does well, but it has a high usage and is difficult to command.

Thats all the bots I can think of for now.  Hope it helps
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 12:11:10 PM »
Well since you seem to like the plugins on Stealthbot you might as well stay with it.

Neglected Fury while I like it's automation, I don't like how the bot is designed, the multi-bot's on it is really meant for 1 .exe per channel. This may or may not suit your needs.

While Ruthless Ops seems to be the bot of choice these days, I find it outright crap. Way too manual and it's detection methods are just plain outdated.

Ruthless Chat isn't meant to have commands, it's a chat bot. Of course someone could possibly make a plugin for you.

Knight is my bot of choice these days. It's detection and simpleness of just doing !gd on (unlike another bot) is probably the best out of the public bots available. A plus for me is it can communicate with other Knights and Forsaken Ops through Sovereign.

I have to laugh at you guys nit picking about a 2-3Mb RAM usage difference between the bots. It's not like it really matters these days.

I know Forsaken Ops was doing a good job fitting your description, except it needs an almost perfect connection to the bnls.

It will work fine with any JBLS server, and presumably any other BNLS server out there if the protocol is followed. The majority of public BNLS are JBLS's anyway.
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 12:25:51 PM »
Well since you seem to like the plugins on Stealthbot you might as well stay with it.

Neglected Fury while I like it's automation, I don't like how the bot is designed, the multi-bot's on it is really meant for 1 .exe per channel. This may or may not suit your needs.

While Ruthless Ops seems to be the bot of choice these days, I find it outright crap. Way too manual and it's detection methods are just plain outdated.

Ruthless Chat isn't meant to have commands, it's a chat bot. Of course someone could possibly make a plugin for you.

Knight is my bot of choice these days. It's detection and simpleness of just doing !gd on (unlike another bot) is probably the best out of the public bots available. A plus for me is it can communicate with other Knights and Forsaken Ops through Sovereign.

I have to laugh at you guys nit picking about a 2-3Mb RAM usage difference between the bots. It's not like it really matters these days.

I know Forsaken Ops was doing a good job fitting your description, except it needs an almost perfect connection to the bnls.

It will work fine with any JBLS server, and presumably any other BNLS server out there if the protocol is followed. The majority of public BNLS are JBLS's anyway.
perhaps hes slightly biased, as he help make knight xD
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 01:54:43 PM »
O he helped make it? biase is acceptable then i guess. While it seems alot of people have almost the same opinions as i, i just minorly concerned about the ram because i have 3 gigs on my comp and running all 5 different versions of bots "sb, ruthless ops\chat, nf, and knight." i use like 1.25 of ram aka 1 gig and a quarter. Also i keep web pages open, i use mozzila because i like it the best but i have IE and chrome as well. Keeping these pages open seems to eat some ram as well.

Any who, NF is a geat bot, i like the minor chat capabilities and yet it has a trigger to move and command as well. But i dont see to find it being able to use d2. "that was already said that it might can, that a clan member might be doing it...by someone in earlier posts.

Also my comp is atleast 2 years old...top of the line at its time...amd x2 6400+ 4 gigs of ram but with av's updating and browsers and all its deff time to step either to a x4 or x6. Just gotta wiat for sc2 to come out for system reqs and wait to get the money to buy new comp.

would still like to hear more opinons and such though,

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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 03:17:31 PM »
use ruth chat/ops. ruth ops can load d2 and shit too.

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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 04:24:26 PM »
as i believe i said b4 i do like ruthless ops for loading wc3 and d2 but it does not chat...aka the whole convo from all users, and im wanting to run just one program if possibleinstead of ops and chat or ops and sb or whatever.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 05:15:24 PM »
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2010, 01:14:06 AM »
perhaps hes slightly biased, as he help make knight xD

I did not code anything in this bot, all though I have helped test it.

If you want an all in one bot use MirageBot or Spiritual, both support plugins and have decent moderation functions. If your channel rarely gets loaded these bots will suit your purposes fine.

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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 01:30:04 AM »
I used to load 6-8 profiles on MirageBot, have 8+ tabs open in chrome, Trillian messanger open, etc for weeks without any problems. I'm not sure why so many people worry about ram. Unless you are jumping back and forth loading this and that you should have no problem doing what you need with the allotted ram.

MirageBot may be the most resource-using bot, but it's still far from when in general use. And with the pro-filters, even in most floods, you will hardly see a drop in speed.
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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 04:16:47 AM »
Soon there will be one bot to rule them all.

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 04:27:21 AM »
Soon there will be one bot to rule them all.

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Re: opinions for me plz
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 09:03:56 AM »
as i believe i said b4 i do like ruthless ops for loading wc3 and d2 but it does not chat...aka the whole convo from all users, and im wanting to run just one program if possibleinstead of ops and chat or ops and sb or whatever.
ruth ops does chat now.  if u got 2.13c.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 09:10:19 AM »
seems my 2.13c had eorror and wasnt recoding all the chat, but yes re install and working fine! thx for point that out  :P
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